Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!atha!aunro!ukma!rutgers!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!ralf From: ralf+@cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview Subject: Re: Communication programs Message-ID: <13127@pt.cs.cmu.edu> Date: 20 May 91 21:15:36 GMT References: <1991May19.113245.19970@cs.umu.se> Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Lines: 41 In article <1991May19.113245.19970@cs.umu.se> dvldbg@cs.umu.se (Daniel Brahneborg) writes: }I read somewhere in the manual that you shouldn't let com-progs be }swapped out. Is there any workaround for this? The problem is Not unless you want your system to crash the next time a character comes in the serial port after the program has been swapped out. }Now I have a 286, with 1 Mb memory. Would more memory do it? }(Expanded or extended, I never seem to remember the difference.) You would need an expansion board which supports *hardware* EEMS or EMS4 and can backfill the low 640K with mappable memory. In addition, you would need to disable as much motherboard memory as possible to give you a large mappable area for multitasking. Unfortunately, most 286 machines now won't boot with less than 512K on the motherboard, which would limit you to one 500+K partition and multiple 128K or 192K (if no EGA/VGA) partitions. Besides, the cost of such an upgrade is pretty close to the cost of a 386SX motherboard.... You will want to get a much smaller comm program. My own RBcomm (available on SIMTEL20) will run in 65K with file transfers or as little as 45K without, and provides full VT10x support plus partial VT2xx support. That may be sufficient for your needs. It's also DESQview-aware. }I also tried opening two Basic-windows. Very cute, if the could only }run at the same time. Now it just says 'Swapping', and stops the first }one when I click on the second. Very annoying. So, what is happening }here? I tought that DV could multitask, even if you didn't have a 386. Sure it can, but you are limited to a TOTAL of about 500K worth of programs on less than a 386 unless you have the above-mentioned hardware EMS4. So if the BASIC window is set to more than half of the "total available" conventional memory listed by the memory status program, DV will have to kick one out of memory in order to load a second. -- {backbone}!cs.cmu.edu!ralf ARPA: RALF@CS.CMU.EDU FIDO: Ralf Brown 1:129/53 BITnet: RALF%CS.CMU.EDU@CARNEGIE AT&Tnet: (412)268-3053 (school) FAX: ask DISCLAIMER? Did | It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's I claim something?| what we know that ain't so. --Will Rogers