Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!ugle.unit.no!ugle.runit.sintef.no!thoger From: thoger@solan.unit.no (Terje Th|gersen) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview Subject: Re: MSDOS V5 Message-ID: Date: 22 May 91 11:18:31 GMT References: <6439@gara.une.oz.au> <1991May21.013414.25378@agora.rain.com> Sender: news@ugle.unit.no Organization: Institute of Physical Chemistry, NTH Lines: 55 In-Reply-To: greg@agora.rain.com's message of 21 May 91 01:34:14 GMT In article <1991May21.013414.25378@agora.rain.com> greg@agora.rain.com (Greg Broiles) writes: In article <6439@gara.une.oz.au> gantony@gara.une.oz.au (George Antony) writes: >Has anybody out there been beta testing DOS 5 with Desqview ? > >Are there any clashes in memory management, and how do the respective >utilities for utilizing high memory compare ? My dad is beta testing DOS 5; I haven't wanted to play with it because I'm currently trying to finish my senior project and want to be sure that the crashes I see are my own, not Microsoft's. :) He seems to be happy with the DOS 5/DV/QEMM combination, with some sticky points: DOS 5 does away with the /X switch for the BUFFERS statment, forcing you to use the lower 640K memory area for buffers. DOS 5 wants to load itself into the first 64K of extended memory (the spot where Desqview likes to hide), meaning that DV can't hiload itself there. DOS itself, though, will fit there - so he can get MEM to report 639K free at the DOS prompt. (before loading anything, obviously..) Someone he talked to at Microsoft said many beta people had been complaining about the loss of the BUFFERS /X switch and that there was a good chance it'd be back by the time DOS 5 is released. >------------------------------------------------------------- >George Antony (gantony@gara.une.oz.au) >Department of Agricultural Economics and Business Management >University of New England, Armidale, N.S.W. 2351, Australia >Fax: (+61-67) 711531 Phone: (+61-67) 733222 (GMT +10 hrs) >------------------------------------------------------------- -- ".. organized crime is the price we pay for organization." - Raymond Chandler Greg Broiles | CI$: 74017,3623 | greg@agora.rain.com PO Box 8988, Portland, OR 97207-8988 | MCIMail: gbroiles Hi! I'm using DOS 5.00.409c win QEMM 5.11 and DESQView. Works like a charm, all of it. Before DOS 5.0 I got 579K after loading all drivers etc, now I get 619K. The only problem is, as noted, that DOS 5.0 gets the first 64k of the 2nd MB, which earlier was available to DV. This gives me a 'first-window' size of about 490k in DV, compared to about 485k before DOS 5.0. Regards, -Terje -- ____________________________________________________________________________ thoger@solan.unit.no | Institute of Physical Chemistry THOGER AT NORUNIT.BITNET | Div. of Computer Assisted Instrumental Analysis | Norwegian Institute of Technology