Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!andersen!tsarver From: tsarver@andersen.uucp (Tom Sarver) Subject: Re: Creativity in Computing (Was Re: Art vs. Engineering) Message-ID: <1991May20.150345.29835@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Sender: news@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mr. News) Nntp-Posting-Host: 192.42.140.1 Organization: Andersen Consulting References: <2382@ccadfa.adfa.oz.au> <36650013@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 1991 15:03:45 GMT Lines: 32 In article <36650013@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> daves@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Dave Straker) writes: >>The conclusion of this posting is that software engineering is still >>pre-paradigm as evidenced by the lack of a generally agreed upon way >>of looking at software, AND the weakness of the supporting science, >>computer science. HOWEVER, software is such a gosh-dern useful thing, >>people are willing to shell out big bucks for sub-otpimal solutions. > >Sounds reasonable to me. (but is it art ;@) > It is art if you consider an artisan as one who chooses from a quasi- infinite number of possibles to accomplish a goal with a subjective means of measuring progress towards the goal. It is the difference between objective and subjective, codified knowledge and apprenticeship. >>of a scientific discipline. The second reference is an article by >>Mary Shaw of Carnegie Mellon University, "Propsects for an Engineering >>Discipline of Software." This article examines a definition of > >Can you give the full reference to this, please? > I apologize. I intended to give the reference before the summary. It is in _IEEE Software_, November 1990. >> >>--Tom Sarver > >Dave Straker Pinewood Information Systems Division (PWD not PISD) >[8-{) HPDESK: David Straker/HP1600/01 > Unix: daves@hpopd.pwd.hp.com --Tom Sarver tsarver@andersen.com