Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!abvax!iccgcc!kambic From: kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (George X. Kambic, Allen-Bradley Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: bridge building and discipline Message-ID: <4639.283807a0@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> Date: 20 May 91 22:30:08 GMT Article-I.D.: iccgcc.4639.283807a0 References: <1259@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> <9105012313.AA23259@enuxha.eas.asu.edu> <1991May3.142824.208@keinstr.uucp> <1991May3.234349.14026@auto-trol.com> <4504.28267bad@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> <1991May9.053311.800@netcom.COM> <4563.282e83ea@iccgcc.decnet.a Lines: 24 b.com> Followup-To: .com> Distribution: na Lines: 19 In article , jgautier@vangogh.ads.com (Jorge Gautier) writes: > In article <4563.282e83ea@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (George X. Kambic, Allen-Bradley Inc.) writes: >> In article <1991May9.053311.800@netcom.COM>, jls@netcom.COM (Jim Showalter) writes: >> [...] > I think the desire for metrics is an admission by management types > that they really don't know what's going on in their projects. Good > managers are able to tell if the project goals are being met, who's > doing well and who's screwing up without any metrics. I agree that a good manager can "sense" trouble before he can measure it, but how does one know if project goals are being met if there is no measurement of what's going on. I also agree that the desire for metrics is based on a desire to know, but if don't want to know quantitatively about the project, what is it that you want to know, and of what value is that information to understanding where the project is? GXKambic standard disclaimer