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From: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Gordon Joly)
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Subject: Re: Art vs. Engineering
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Date: 21 May 91 14:54:17 GMT
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Chris Prael <chrisp@regenmeister.EBay.Sun.COM> writes 
> [...]
> This is an interesting speculation, but it is historically inacurate,
> hence bad science.  If you read the history of most scientific
> developments, particularly in physics, you will find that most of the
> major advances were the result of significant engineering advances.
> Major engineering advances, on the other hand, have come most often from
> advances in materials (engineering, though we now call it "material
> science", other engineering advances, or scientific advances).
> 
> Most people studiously ignore the fact that Einstein's training was not
> in a scientific topic.  His training was in examining patent
> applications, a non-academic form of engineering training.
> 
> Chris Prael

"Einstein's training" must have been a great hinderance to him. He
basically re-wrote the rule book with both (Special and General)
Relativity and the photo-electric effect.

Galileo and others had to fight against the establishment; engineering
is by definition established c.f. Mary Shaw's article,

%A Mary Shaw
%T Propects of an Engineering of Software Engineering
%J IEEE Software
%D November 1990
%V 7
%N 11

previously cited in this list.
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