Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!mmdf From: Shannon Lawson Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio Subject: Re: So you want to RIP mods... Message-ID: <54126@nigel.ee.udel.edu> Date: 20 May 91 17:39:45 GMT Sender: mmdf@ee.udel.edu Lines: 30 > 2. Try exiting, and rebooting, and if it STILL isn't there, turn off your > computer for a second, and turn it back on. (Oh my, I can hear the little > techies saying "But, when you turn your computer off, you're supposed to > keep it off for some 30-40 seconds.) Yes, you ARE supposed to wait... But I see why you are doing what you're doing. > *Side note* --- Let me tell you this, I have been turning on and off my computerfor years, without waiting 30 seconds, I just turn it on and off, because I > hate waiting. And here's another thing, I acctually unplug/plug my mouse, WHILE > the computer is on!!! (Golly, I'm a rebel!!) I am not telling everyone to do this, I am just saying, that I have never fried my computer (Or myself) doing this.And that people who turn their computer off, to plug in the Serial port, are > weenies. *heh..* But anyway... I'll admit that I've been guilty of the same thing in the past, but it's been my painful experience (and those of others in similar situations) that the 3000 is less tolerant of connecting peripherals under power (even joystick/mouse) than previous Amiga models. Apparently, the CIA chips (8520's) are more sensitive to static and other "noise" than previous incarnations. I dunno. Anyway, the net result is that I know several people who have been burned by plugging joysticks or the mouse in under power on 3000's. You can probably get away with it most of the time on 500/1000/2000/2500 machines, but doing so on the 3000 is definitely bad news. Especially if your local repair center operates on a module replacement basis. Translation: "Oh, Mr. Customer, you need a whole new motherboard! (big $$$)" Moral: Don't do it! -- Shannon Lawson Graduate Student, Electrical Engineering