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From: maj@silk.Berkeley.EDU (Bilbo Baggins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
Subject: Re: Eye of the Beholder
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Date: 20 May 91 19:55:24 GMT
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+  2387	Re: Eye of the Beholder                       Colas Nahaboo           In article <11356@mirsa.inria.fr>, colas@celeste.inria.fr (Colas Nahaboo) writes:
|> In article <726@digigw.digital.co.jp>, manjit@digigw.digital.co.jp (Manjit Bedi)
|> writes:
|> > Does anyone know when Eye of the Beholder by SSI will be released? 
|> >  I say they would which claimed it was a new dimension in
|> > RPG or something like that.
|> 
|> It is just a copy of dungeon master. Apparently SSI stole the whole game
|> mechanics from FTL, and got good review from the IBM press since they apparently
|> are better known in the IBM world than FTL. I am against copyrights on
|> user-interfaces, but SSI lies makes me sick.
|> 
|> The REAL innovators are FTL. Play Dungeon Master and Chaos Strikes Back to see
|> what EoB is. DM & CSB makes full use of the amiga (you can track monsters by
|> listening to stereophonic noises, no disc access, even between levels!!!). Too
|> bad Sundog wasn't ported to the amiga (or was it?). SSI has made really crappy
|> software before, FTL have produced ONLY true masterpieces.
|> 
|> I don't mean EoB is crappy, only all good things in it comes from FTL, not SSI.
|> 
|> Colas Nahaboo, colas@sa.inria.fr, Bull Research, Koala Project, GWM X11 WM
|> Phone:(33) 93.65.77.70(.66 Fax), INRIA, B.P.109 - 06561 Valbonne Cedex, FRANCE.

I have to differ with you here, SSI and EA are the true Inovators here because 
they are the only ones who have the guts to take a system improve it and PORT
it to different machines, something the asses at FTL have not. And the only 
way you can say that SSI has only produced crappy stuff is if you only have an 
amiga and you keep your head stuck in the sand. Back when FTL and amiga both 
were dreams SSI was writing some of the best and most original RPG's around.
If you don't like SSI's way of creating Eye of the Beholder, then that's fine,
but when you say its a copy, you are dead wrong. I remember playing Dungeon Master
on a friends amiga, yes I have a PC and therefore can't get DM, and I remember 
how it was complicated, and how that you consumed food too fast, as well as other
problems. I agree that the visual display in Eye of the Beholder is very similar
, but I would not say that it is a copy of Dungeon Master. 

PS. Let us take a look at great games that each company has produced

	SSI:	PHANTASIE
		Wizards Crown
		Pool of Radiance
		Eye Of The Beholder
			(as well as all of their sequel's to each of the above"

		The first two both won awards for being the best rpg in the year
		they were released. Note Also that All of these games except for
		the last, has been ported to just about every machine.

	FTL:	DUNGEON MASTER

		(If ther is anything else that FTL has made that worth crap please
		 let me know, and Don't list Chaos Strikes Back because that
		requires the DM game as well)
		 
		Note here that the morons at FTL, who by the way make me sick,
		have never bothered to port it to the IBM machines.


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