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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Programming HELP PLEASE!!!
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Date: 18 May 91 06:40:54 GMT
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In article <E898F2CE60200734@MACALSTR.EDU> SHBOUM@MACALSTR.EDU writes:
>	I'm going to start doing some serious programming for the GS this
>summer and with all you Apple gurus out there, I was wondering if you can send
>some suggestions my way about how to do real text under GS/OS. Not the slow
>graphical text, but the good old fasioned text that has been with us all
>along. And I want to have it fast too - ProTerm fast... Also, can a GS/OS
>menubar be established in the text enviorment too?

	For the last question, I can give you an answer.. NO,
not unless you want to make your own tools to do the work for you..

	I can't answer your other questions, sorry, but it definitely can
be done, as Prosel 16 and other shells and such do text under GS/OS. 

>	Lastly, is there any good books out there that can teach the mysteries
>of the Toolbox in layman terms? I definatly don't want to start off with a
>book that resembles the Inside the Macintosh series {ug...what a disaster it
>was trying to read those!}

	Well, there ARE, but you'll need to get the Apple IIGS Toolbox
References Volumes I-III anyway, so why waste more money on other books??
These'll cost you enough!!  Just like with C, you need to get K&R eventually.

	Get the "Programmer's Introduction to the Apple IIGS" and the 
Toolbox Manuals, and you'll be set. (I believe the toolbox manuals DO 
resemble "Inside the Macintosh".. I think they're both just big reference
manuals)

	The Programmer's Introduction talks about event loops and goes into
detail.. I jumped back into the book today so I can hopefully start some
programming this weekend...

	Unfortunately the book is old and I don't believe an update
was made.. It all talks about ProDOS 16, and I think there were a few other
things that you can tell are different from the situation when the book
was published, even if you currently use the computer just from a user
perspective..

	And all of the examples are in Pascal.. UGGGH! (but full C and
assembly listings are in the back of the book, as well as a disk that comes
with the book with source & object for the examples)
 
>	Also, because the desire for Appletalk games has been around, does
>the Toolbox refrences carry enough matieral about how to use the Appletalk
>drivers, or do I have to purchase another $100 in books in order to give
>my NBA game the proper drivers to work over the Appletalk Network?  Thanks
>for the time everyone!

	There's an AppleTalk Reference manual.. I've never seen it though.
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