Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!midway!clout!chinet!saj From: saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) Subject: Re: Atari Mortis Message-ID: <1991May19.035413.14005@chinet.chi.il.us> Summary: Still some hopeful signs Keywords: history, cheerleading, admonitions Organization: Chinet - Chicago Public Access UNIX References: <9105141732.AA19207@cwns10.INS.CWRU.Edu> <4528@bnr-rsc.UUCP> Date: Sun, 19 May 1991 03:54:13 GMT I just did a bit of comparison shopping. Sure enough, in selected applications, the TT beats the pants off anything based on an Intel chip. In a lot of other applications, it runs pretty much even with a 25 MHz 80486. And the price is in the 80386 range. Leaves it a very good hardware buy. But the software situation stinks. You just don't see the exuberant blossoming of neat programs to do stuff you wouldn't do with a computer except you wanted to find another thing to do with it. You see programs in important niches compete on lack of bugs, rather than neat features. Configurability is a problem too: not that the other name-manufacturers are any nicer about selling you the machine the way you want it set up, but Atari is the last holdout for LITTLE boxes: if the standard configuration doesn't have what you want, you either hang it outboard, or (in the case of a disk drive, in particular) replace the one it came with. No room to add stuff. Pizza boxes are great as network leaves, but for the one-and-only, lots of room to grow is comforting. For the future, the notebooks look like super-neat machines (I have some problems figuring out how to market them, but that's not a technical issue). A successor to the ATW could give Atari a visible presence in education and research. The Mega STe looks kinda lonesome at 16 MHz: if the other STe-s ran that fast, they'd be real challengers in home and small businesses. So there are still some sparks. Developing for the ST isn't so terribly hard, but there isn't a ton of it happening. The hardware is marketable and marketed, just not as resourcefully as I (we?)'d like to see. Steve