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From: ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET (Julian F. Reschke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari Mortis
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Date: 21 May 91 18:36:03 GMT
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In article <1991May18.024738.571@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>, carter@cat23.cs.wisc.edu
(Gregory Carter) says:
>I think Atari will survive if they gradually enable their machines to run
>MAC software at least more easily, so Dave doesn't have to work so hard :).
>The MEGA STE with the LAN ports for AppleTalk sure helps
>
I disagree totally. Why should someone buy an Atari when he really wants
to run MAC software. Atari will only survive, if their own operating system
can compete. With things like FSMGDOS and a multitasking TOS in development..
Don't forget: TOS is 32 bit clean NOW, and you can easily run TOS software
on a 16MB machine.This is really nice for image processing and DTP.

>I can tell everyone right now.  They only reason why I bought an atari was:
>
>1) Turbo C 2.0 (I have several personal projects going)
>2) Mac Emulation (Which takes care of the serious side of computing)
>
>Thats its.  I HATE ST application software, except for Turbo C, probably the
>most ingenious piece of software I have seen for the ST.
>
I like Turbo C, too. But it's just an absolutely normal GEM application,
just a SciGraph, Gemini, Rufus, Interface, Script and many other fine
GEM based programs.

>GEM, God, did anybody preview what kind of REAL DOG MULTI-GEM is?  Atari
>I HOPE will look elsewhere, you people REALLY don't want this, I would take
>a UNIX command line over MULTI GEM!  Hopefully atari will be realistic and
>go the UNIX/MOTIF route.
>
What's the problem with Multi-GEM?

>GEM is brain dead, it never will amount to anything.  I wish I could reclaim
>my ROM space IMMEDIATELY.

If you say things like that, you have to give reasons. Comparing GEM with
Windows or Motif, there are a lot of good things both VDI and AES, and
it will someday more than one GEM program at once, I see no problems at
all.

Note: as far as I know, with Motif you simpla don't have a _virtual_
device concept: you simply can NOT redirect screen output to metafiles
or printers.

>
>THANK GOD for Dave Small.  I would kiss his hiney if he was here, as I finally
>managed to pick up a Spectre GCR.
>
>All praise Gadgets by Small.
>
>Now Dave, I WANT a 68030/040 option for my VME equipped MEGA STE!!!
>
>I also want it less than $1000 please.
>
>--Gregory

All I hear is: `I want'. Sure: a TT/040 with multitasking TOS, able to
run all MAC programs (what about SunOS and NextStep) would be a fine
thing...