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From: conte@crest.crhc.uiuc.edu (Tom Conte)
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Subject: Re: RFD: comp.sys.handhelds.hp48 and comp.sources.hp48 moderated
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Date: 20 May 91 15:06:09 GMT
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In article <1991May13.223400.28948@corpane.uucp>, herman@corpane.uucp (Harry Herman) writes:
> Why stay in the comp.sys.handhelds section, why not move to the
> comp.sys.hp section?

Ah, time for history!  Comp.sys.handhelds was created because the calculator
junkies were *kicked* out of comp.sys.hp (which might also have been appropriately
named comp.sys.hpux.is.crap).

>  When I first started reading news, I started
> looking for groups that talked about the HP28, and then the HP48.  I
> naturally started with comp.sys.hp, which apparently is for their
> computers.  The only reason I even found out about comp.sys.handhelds was that
> EduCalc advertised the HP BBS for the HP48, and the HP BBS carries an echo of 
> comp.sys.handhelds.  We could have comp.sys.hp.calculators and
> comp.sys.hp.palmtops (or comp.sys.hp.hp48 and comp.sys.hp.hp95).
> 
> I noticed that comp.sys.ti has a subgroup called comp.sys.ti.explorer, and
> comp.sys.zenith has a subgroup comp.sys.zenith.z110, so having subgroups
> under the comp.sys.hp group would seem reasonable to me.
> 

Not the same think *because* we're not talking about one type of machine or
architecture.  These little guys are quite different in architectures.  Nor
are we talking about one manufacturer: I've seen casio and TI calculator
posts to .handhelds before too.

Again, (and I am sorry, Jeff, but I still cannot see the *dislogic* of the
following) splitting,

	comp.sys.calculators
	comp.sys.palmtops

makes sense, cleaves the two warring factions, is logical within the scope of
usenet naming practices (given what I have stated above: the belief in one
type of machine is mythical!), and dag nammit, SHOULD BE PUT TO A VOTE!

> 
> 				Harry Herman
> 				herman@corpane

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