Xref: utzoo news.groups:32253 comp.sys.handhelds:7981 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!uunet!stanford.edu!leland.Stanford.EDU!elaine10.Stanford.EDU!mcgrant From: mcgrant@elaine10.Stanford.EDU (Michael Grant) Newsgroups: news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds Subject: Re: RFD comp.sys.handelds split Summary: I think we've got it all wrong. Message-ID: <1991May21.195406.28119@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: 21 May 91 19:54:06 GMT References: <1991May20.224156.19428@eecs.nwu.edu> <1991May21.013321.26705@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University - AIR Lines: 37 Look, personally I DON'T see a consensus here. For example, I am HIGHLY supportive of putting the hp line in its own group, and the .hp48 naming scheme seems great to me. I think this paranoid junk about 'self appointed net police' (I refuse to put that pretentious little period in there) is exactly that-JUNK. Once the smoke clears and the new group is up and running, I for one am not going to have comp.sys.handhelds in my newsrc at all. Secondly, a lot of people would like to see a split down the lines of handhelds versus palmtops. FINE. Get your derrier in gear, then, and make a SEPARATE proposal to start up comp.sys.palmtops. I personally don't think that it has to be one or the other, I think it is perfectly reasonable to install BOTH new newsgroups. BUT, I also believe that it is going to take another proposal altogether. Jeff Mandel is certainly putting a lot more effort into this than ANYONE who disagrees with him. I won't believe otherwise until I see another proposal. So here's the story: veto the comp.sys.handhelds.hp48 proposal if it makes your boxers creep up a little too high. Make ANOTHER proposal for comp.sys.palmtops, and I'll GLADLY vote for it. What will be left of comp.sys.handhelds? Frankly, it may not be much, but at least the people that DO use it won't have to wade through all of the whining about newsgroup changes, or the voluminous HP48 postings which noone seems to remember to label as such in the 'Subject' line, and so forth. So we'll all have split up into our own little corners, and those people who like to read it all can do so, and everyone is happy. Mark one yes vote down for the current proposal AS WELL as any decent comp.sys.palmtops proposal that comes along. Michael C. Grant Information Systems Laboratory Stanford University mcgrant@isl.stanford.edu