Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!kksys!edgar!saylor!macgate!Uucp From: Bob.Nordling@f13.n396.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Nordling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games Subject: My problem with Educorp Message-ID: <674815973.0@macgate.fidonet> Date: 20 May 91 12:15:00 GMT Sender: Uucp@p0.f22.n282.z1.fidonet.org Lines: 61 * In a message originally to All, Mike Pflueger said: >I also pressed him on the fact that not only are they profiting >from MY >work without my permission AND WITHOUT EVEN THE COURTESY TO >NOTIFY ME >(I noticed my programs in one of their catalogs in >Mac). He >said that they distribute too many programs to contact every >author. HA! Mike. Educorp is a business. They profit a great deal off of selling shareware without the minimal courtesies of insuring that the programs work, that they are the latest versions available, and that the author is aware that they are selling it. I don't doubt they have the resources to "at least try" to contact every author. I know in working with the GAMER Project, we tried to contact every author of Mac entertainment (shareware) software. Out of 350 authors who were written, 1/3 of the authors responded, 1/3 of the letters were returned as having invalid addresses (forwarding order expired, forward order not established), and 1/3 of the letters were either not returned by the authors or the US Postal System. At the GAMER Project, we only focus on entertainment/educational Mac shareware, but we have a "Shareware Authors Address Book" so those who at least wish to register programs have a VALID address to do so. From my statistics, fully 2/3 of the authors which listed addresses in their programs/documentation are currently incommunicado. I am somewhat puzzled why everyone focuses on Educorp as the culprit when the commercial online services make no effort to contact authors nor to compensate them based on number of times/amount of time involved in downloading. Although these companies don't depend like Educorp for their entire livelihood on shareware, most likely some of the electronic services would either would not have come about or would have folded with out the boost of big bucks from time expended on downloads. At least the electronic services check the programs for viruses and generally keep the latest versions online. Then there are many user groups which shareware authors rightly don't besmirch generating revenues to support their non-profit groups through the modest sales of pd/shareware disks. What would be great is if there was a model online service which gave a percentage of revenues generated by the downloads to the author of that program -- and also protected the caller from wasting money on downloading buggy/crummy programs by reviewing each program and designating a section of premium programs and "at own risk" programs. Fred Showker, with the MUG News Service, distributes shareware to raise money for the non-profit Johnny Appleseed Awards (including grants to community service minded Mac enthusiasts)...from what I hear, a percentage of the revenues go back to the authors, but as usual, the big companies making the big buck put their money in advertisement, spending less on promoting the prosperity of shareware authors, whereas the people who try to do the "right" thing struggle in obscurity. And I have heard from many shareware authors which have spent hundreds/thousands of hours on their hobby/first experience with the business world, only to not receive a single registration or even postcard....there are lots of interesting talented people in the Mac world who dwell in obsurity ... --- * Origin: New Orleans Mac User Group BBS (1:396/13)