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From: shepperd@dms.UUCP (Dave Shepperd)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: SCO License security - another flame
Message-ID: <1251@dms.UUCP>
Date: 22 May 91 21:26:41 GMT
References: <1991May21.172622.5358@logixwi.uucp>
Organization: Atari Games Inc., Milpitas, CA
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From article <1991May21.172622.5358@logixwi.uucp>, by jpm@logixwi.uucp (Jan-Piet Mens):
> sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan) writes:
> 
>>In article <1248@dms.UUCP> shepperd@dms.UUCP (Dave Shepperd) writes:
>>>Maybe so, but I can't get su to "work" on my Xenix, Unix and Esix systems 
>>>either.
>>>So I use root's crontab and do a su to news from there (which does work).
> 
>>That's pretty interesting, considering that there is nothing in xenix that
>>would prevent that.
>>Or are you upset because you can't have other users use crontab?
>>In which case I would suggest you RTFM.  Something I would expect of any
>>system administrator.
> 
> 	BTW, the FM says you should insert the names of all users allowed to
> 	use crontab in /usr/lib/cron/cron.allow.  1 per line ;-)

The original subject seems to have been lost. Someone asked (complained?)
that is was difficult to use a crontab file on an account that had no
interactive login (such as news). Sean suggested that one could su
to the subject account and use crontab from there. It is my observation
that this does not work on the 3 O/S's that I use regularly. The symptom
is that crontab insists on using the original username even after doing
an su. The solution I mentioned is how I get around the problem of not
being able to add a crontab file for an account that cannot be logged into.

BTW: The FM is much more clear on the subject of cron.allow and cron.deny
than your comment implies. If a cron.allow does not exist, then cron looks
in cron.deny. If neither exists, then everyone can use cron. None of my
systems have either cron.allow or cron.deny. This has nothing to do with
the problems mentioned in any of the previous postings.

-- 
Dave Shepperd.	    shepperd@dms.UUCP or motcsd!dms!shepperd
Atari Games Corporation, 675 Sycamore Drive, Milpitas CA 95035.
Nobody knows what I'm saying. I don't even know what I'm saying.