Xref: utzoo comp.unix.wizards:25711 alt.security:2600 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!hsdndev!cmcl2!kramden.acf.nyu.edu!brnstnd From: brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards,alt.security Subject: Re: BSD tty security, part 3: How to Fix It Message-ID: <19515:May2122:03:3191@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Date: 21 May 91 22:03:31 GMT References: <19313@rpp386.cactus.org> <3690:May1921:22:5191@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> <19317@rpp386.cactus.org> Organization: IR Lines: 14 In article <19317@rpp386.cactus.org> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F Haugh II) writes: > What > happens to a trojan horse that gains access to the =PTY= =AFTER= > the user logs in? If that can happen, then you're not talking about a Trojan Horse; you're talking about a complete failure in security. If a program can do that, it can redirect all further input from and output to the terminal, and the user is up the creek. Why do you care what happens past that? What I'm doing is making sure that such programs won't get access to the pseudo-tty in the first place. *That's* security. ---Dan