Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sample.eng.ohio-state.edu!purdue!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!dtek.chalmers.se From: d7stfax@dtek.chalmers.se (Stefan Axelsson) Newsgroups: rec.guns Subject: Re: Lead bullets at ranges (was Re: H&K P7 Question) Message-ID: <34655@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 19 May 91 16:53:07 GMT Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, Sweden. Lines: 50 Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu In <34643@mimsy.umd.edu> boardman%cancer.unm.edu@ariel.unm.edu writes: ##Interesting, too. I spoke with a civil engineer who designed the ##ventilation system for an indoor range in Minnesota who indicated to me ##that most of the particulate lead in the air of a range comes from the # ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ##actual impact of the bullet on the target or backstop, not from the firing # ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ##process. My guess, then, would be that even FMJ's would shed enough jacket # ^^^^^^^ ##--Eric Heine # This is the exact opposite of what I read recently somewhere (I can't # cite the source - I read too many gun mags ;^)), which stated that almost # all the lead exposure in indoor ranges was due to the Lead Styphnate used # in primers. Does anyone know what the facts really are???????? I felt compelled to include my $0.02. Having virtually no experience with fire arms I can't comment on whether the lead comes from the primer, or bullet impact. I can however do so in the case of air rifles. If you have seen a high speed photo of an air rifle pellet impacting you would be, at least I was, surprised by the amount of molten lead that shoots backwards from the pellet in a thin spray, when the pellet hits the backstand. OK there is a considerable difference between an all lead pellet hitting a steel surface, loosing some 4/5:ths of its length, and a bullet from a fire arm dissipating its energy in sand or whatever, I grant that. The Swedish regulations however say that if you are firing air rifles in an indoor range you must provide ventilation that extracts the air at the target stand. Of course no one follows those regulations, but still. Always taking the chance to speculate :-) I wouldn't think there would be much lead deposited from a jacketed bullet striking a medium designed to not deform the bullet. I can't see that happen when the bullet travels down the bore either. But when the crime lab guys here in Sweden test fired some thousand .357 magnums taken in by the police as part of the investigation in to the murder of our prime minister Olof Palme in 1986, they had to rotate the lab technicians because of increase levels of lead in their blood. I'd bet on the primers. Now if anyone really knows... :-) P.S. You wouldn't know where I could get into IPSC style shooting here in Sweden would you. D.S. -- Stefan Axelsson, Chalmers University of Technology, d7stfax@dtek.chalmers.se Sweden