Xref: utzoo sci.bio:4983 talk.environment:2975 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!Firewall!ddsw1!arf From: arf@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling) Newsgroups: sci.bio,talk.environment Subject: Bats by a Mile Message-ID: <1991May17.044756.26698@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Date: 17 May 91 04:47:56 GMT Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Wheeling, IL Lines: 35 Article 4431 (22 more) in sci.bio: From: mll@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mark Luce) Subject: Sonar: Bats vs. Dolphins vs. Humans > I am interested in any comparisons of the sonar capabilities of bats, dolphins, and humans (human technology, of course!). In particular, I have heard the claim that bats and/or dolphins have certain sonar capabilities which we have not as yet been able to duplicate technologically. Is there any truth to this, or is this just another modern folk myth? ---------- ARF says: Bats win by a wide margin. In gross terms, electronic sonar can barely detect a foot long fish. A dolphin can find a golf ball with difficulty after much forced training. Bats, on the other hand, would starve to death if they could not pursue and capture thousands of mosquito sized insects, on the wing, every night. What gives bats the edge over dolphins is a much higher frequency. Bats operate from audio to about 100 khz. They alter not only the frequency but the rep rate as they close on the target to maximize resolution. Dolphins operate in the human audio range so the amount of data (resolution) is much less but their normal food is much larger than insects. High frequency would also be absorbed much faster in water so the range would be more limited. The above of course, only applies to insectivorous bats. Many fruit eating bats have no echo-location capabilities at all. arf