Newsgroups: soc.feminism Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero-c!nadel From: rivero@dev8b.mdcbbs.com Subject: Re: Housewives... Message-ID: <1991May21.161345.11611@aero.org> Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Lines: 48 Sender: news@aero.org Organization: McDonnell Douglas M&E, Cypress CA References: <91130.021458IO92142@MAINE.BITNET> <19894@cs.utexas.edu> Date: 16 May 91 11:31:34 GMT Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Lines: 51 In article <19894@cs.utexas.edu>, turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes: > > ----- > In article <91130.021458IO92142@MAINE.BITNET> IO92142%MAINE.BITNET@VM1.gatech.edu (James Gray) writes: >> ... Finally I said to her... >> >> You're going to have to realize that there are women (no womyn) >> out there that *want* to be housewives or want to have children >> and *not* work while raising them. They want these things. >> >> Well, needless to say she didn't believe me, and started on this >> explaination about how if these women where *enlightened* about >> how they have been brought up wrong. ... > > There are also men who want this. I have known men who enjoyed > being househusbands, and others who clearly would if they could. > Indeed, while I would not want to give up career entirely, I > would gladly work part-time out of my home so that I could spend > the majority of my time raising children, were only I to meet the > right woman with whom to arrange such a lifestyle. (Direct > enquiries to e-mail address above.) This is a common situation. The image of men as a "I want my sex now and let the women handle the kids" beast is a greatly over-used misrepresentation. I've always wanted a family, and have arranged my career direction to allow for time to spend with my eventual offspring. In some cases, this meant trading some job excitement for long term stability and predictability. Unfortunatly, the person I married abrubtly changed her mind about having children, aborting her only pregnancy without explanation. We are now separated. and heading for a divorce. She cannot understand why I am angry and hurt by what happened. Her stated opinion is ,"All men want women to get an abortion", "Only women really want kids","Men always stick the women with the kids". These are clearly sexist biases. Her father took a large part of the care of my wife and her siblings, and I was raised to believe that a man takes good care of his home. My wife's reponse to this is that both her father and I are "weird" anyway, and "don't count". Same notation, any family type women can send e-mail inquiries to the above address. ========================================================================== \\\\ Michael Rivero | "I drank WHAT!" | "THIS PORTION OF SIG | \ (. rivero@dev8a.mdcbbs | Socrates ------------------- UNDER | )> DISCLAIMER::: |-----------| | CONSTRUCTION | == "Hey man, I wasn't | | | (pardon our | ---/ even here then!" | | | white-out) | ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------+++++++++++++++