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From: uunet!apctrc!zrra07@ncar.UCAR.EDU (Randall R. Appleton)
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Subject: Re: Book Review: Against Our Will
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Date: 17 May 91 23:17:46 GMT
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In article <14915@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU>, farmerl@handel.CS.ColoState.Edu (lisa ann farmer) writes:
|> 
|> I think that most men find "stranger" rape repulsive but date rape is a 
|> different matter.  According to a study done by Dr. Mary P. Koss, a good per-
|> centage of the men surveyed believed certain things could be expected if they
|> paid for dinner, etc.  There were questions designed in such a way that would
|> find out if the men had raped without using the word rape.  They would answer
|> yes to these questions but no to the questions containing the word rape.  I
|> would direct you to the book _I never called it rape_ by Robin Warshaw for 
|> more info on this study.   
|> Lisa
|> farmerl@handel.cs.colostate.edu
|> 


Do you know any men who have, even once, engaded in data-rape but don't call it that?  I bet you have known many men (50 or 100 or so) over your life, but I *guess* that not one of them has ever date-raped someone without realizing it.

I mearly point this out for the following reason.  If *you* don't know any men who do this, and *I* don't know any men who do this, then they must not be as common as you seem to think.

I'm not saying that it doesn't happen (really, I`m not).  I am just saying that men who unknowingly date-rape are not as common as you seem to think.

-Randy