Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!ucla-cs!ucivax!gateway From: NRILEY@BOOTES.UNM.EDU (Natalie Riley Osorio) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: On Womanhood...... Message-ID: <9105211741.AA02780@ariel.unm.edu> Date: 21 May 91 18:28:12 GMT Lines: 27 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: blanche.ics.uci.edu I appreciate all the responses about my question, and since the discussion have become a lot more comfortable (I've also become quite sensitised to the tremendous amount of people who use the term "girl" for a woman). I guess my discomfort was basically a reluctance to lose my youth, but that issue is covered when I perceive myself as a young woman. And all in all, if the choice is between being perceived as someone who is immature/naive and someone who is competent/mature, then I'd much rather take the latter. But now I have another question regarding the usage of "woman" and "girl." At what point (or what age) does one regard a female a woman, and not a girl? I've heard people say that puberty is the pivotal point. But, I find that a weak argument since females go through puberty at vastly different ages (I know one woman who first menstruated at age 9, and another at age 16....) Furthermore, that isn't all that constitutes maturity. So, what is the reference point? Nat NRILEY@BOOTES.UNM.EDU (Natalie Riley Osorio) "Many other women have kicked higher, balanced longer, or turned faster. These are poor substitutes for passion." Agnes DeMille ______________________________________________________________________________