Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!aero-c!nadel
From: DOCTORJ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Jon J Thaler)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Do all men benefit from rape?
Message-ID: <91141.202025DOCTORJ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Date: 22 May 91 16:43:42 GMT
Sender: news@aero.org
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Lines: 20
Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org
Status: R
Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org


In article <7906@alvin.mcnc.org>, ge@mcnc.org (George Entenman) says:

>But I submit that we all *benefit* from rape, whether we wish to
>or not.  We have no more choice in the matter than those of us
>who are white benefit from living in a racist world.

>It's not hard to imagine how we "nice guys" benefit.  Women
>need us to escort them at night or in dangerous areas.  We
>fantasize about rescuing grateful women from a rapist (and here
>I would ask the male readers of this newsgroup to look honestly
>at themselves).  We get to post understanding articles to this
>newsgroup and to feel accepted and needed by women.  And many
>men benefit from having wives and girlfriends who are not free
>to move about at night, for example.

I disagree.  I don't want to have to escort women around, and I don't
fantasize about rescuing them.  I don't enjoy being around women
who aren't strong and self-sufficient.  It actually makes me
*MORE* insecure to find myself in a position of "male strength."  It is
a responsibility that I didn't choose to have.  I don't get any thrills
from relating to women like I do to children.