Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: gazit@cs.duke.EDU (Hillel Gazit) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Book Review: Against Our Will Message-ID: <674882925@lear.cs.duke.edu> Date: 22 May 91 20:56:27 GMT References: <1991May15.144955.22072@aero.org> <7906@alvin.mcnc.org> Followup-To: talk.rape Organization: The Piranha Club Lines: 26 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu In article <7906@alvin.mcnc.org> ge@mcnc.org.UUCP (George Entenman) writes: >But I submit that we all *benefit* from rape, >whether we wish to or not. I reject this claim. I prefer to sleep with a woman because she wants my body, not because she wants my protection. Rape causes women to be more frighten, more hostile and less friendly. It becomes harder to start a conversation, with a woman especially in the middle of the night. Add to that the fact that women who were raped tend to avoid sex for extended periods of time. The bottom line is that rape reduces the quantity and the quality of friendly sex which is available to men (and women). The follow-up is directed to talk.rape. [As long as the subject is on discussion of feminist analysis of rape (eg, whether or not men benefit from rape), it is appropriate here. Followups that start to stray off from that should go to talk.rape. Those wishing to discuss specifically with Gazit should probably go to talk.rape whether or not the subject stays on topic for soc.feminism. --CTM]