Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: ENDTIMES STUDY Message-ID: Date: 19 May 91 02:46:29 GMT Article-I.D.: athos.May.18.22.46.27.1991.14044 Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 27 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu One of the points of your message was that signs accompanied the apostles, and that the gates in Revelation only had the names of twelve apostles. Then you continued to quote the writings of Paul. Paul was not one of the twelve. Some people hold to the theory that Matthias was not God's choice, and that Paul was supposed to be the twelth apostle. Yet Paul travelled with another apostle, Barnabas. Barnabas was not one of the twleve. Yet he was an apostle. So we see that one does not have to be one of the twelve to have a gift. Also, look at I Corinthians 14. These were not apostles, and they exercised gifts of the Spirit. I agree with your statement that in the last days false signs will be shown. Yet false signs and false apostles traveled in the Paul's day. Did that make Paul any less an apostle? Did that make his gifts or his work any less legitimate. Even so the gifts that are exercised in the church today, that are legitimate, are not from Satan. There are those who use the name of God and the name of Christ to make money, and they work against the Lord's will. But that does not make those who teach teh truth into liers. I have a question about I Corinthians 13. Do we know see God perfectly? Do we see him face to face? Are we more grown-up than Paul, who had revelations that he was not allowed to share with mankind (I Corinthians 12.) Did Paul live to see the cannon put together. He would have lived over 250 years. Paul was looking forward to seeing Him face to face. But if this refers to the Scriptures, then it was not something that Paul would see in his lifetime. Was Paul a child, where we are adults? I think not. Link Hudson.