Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!news.larc.nasa.gov!lll-winken!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!widener!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eagle!data.nas.nasa.gov!news From: radams@cerritos.edu Newsgroups: soc.religion.eastern Subject: On telling if someone is a master. Message-ID: <1991May22.065357.27444@nas.nasa.gov> Date: 22 May 91 06:53:57 GMT Sender: news@nas.nasa.gov Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA Lines: 38 Approved: prabhu@amelia.nas.nasa.gov Some recent posts have raised an interesting question. How do we know if someone is an enlightened master or not? Do we check to see if he or she has a phd. in enlightenment? Do we check to see if what he or she says is in accordance with some particular buddhist doctrine? Do we look for a halo over her or his head? Do we look for certain displays of powers? Surely, the above criteria is ludicrous. Perhaps we might rely more on intuitive perception: Do we feel a raising of consciousness or a deep feeling of peace in the presence of this person? Is this person putting on shows or does she or he sincerely try to help people to see the Reality or Self within without trying to draw attention to herself or himself. Does she or he claim to be a great incarnation or avatar, or displays modesty and humbleness instead and also displays evenmindedness and calmness in all circumstances no matter how histerical the people around him or her are (such as in an emergency or crises). I don't think that any of us can come up with an infallible method of telling if a person is a master or not, but perhaps we can use some common sense and intuitive perception in making this judgement for ourselves. Paramahansa Yogananda once said that a master will display certain characteristics, some of which can be measured by scientific means: for example he says that masters can silence their heart beat (ie. completely stop) and breath for hours at a time at will and this can happen automatically in certain states of samadhi. Now I am not talking about the highest states of consciousness, since the greatest masters seem to have to lower their consciousness a tad bit so as to still be a participant in this drama of delusion - just enough so as to be in the world but not of it - in order to help the rest of us. And many of the greatest masters tended to withdraw from alot of outer activities towards the end of their lives and thus enter into higher states of nirvikalpa samadhi (oh dear, someone is going to accuse me of reading books again! ;-) which was not as possible when carrying out their selfless mission to help others. Roger Adams radams@cerritos.edu To those in whom love dwells, Cerritos College the whole world is one family. 11110 Alondra Blvd A Hindu Proverb Norwalk, California 90650 USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------