Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!madler From: madler@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.compression Subject: Re: Sound compression Keywords: sound compression Message-ID: <1991May23.215341.7836@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: 23 May 91 21:53:41 GMT References: <91May15.140250edt.750@neuron.ai.toronto.edu> <105539@sgi.sgi.com> <1991May23.123202.18335@cc.tut.fi> Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 20 Just thought I'd throw into this thread that Sony has announced a 2.5 inch CD format that puts 74 minutes of music in about 175M using 5:1 compression. They are using psychoacoustic techniques, which means they are throwing away subband information that it masked by other subband information based on experiments with human frequency masking. It will be interesting to see the audiophile reaction to this. Sony says that this is their best shot at audio compression currently, and that more than 5:1 was unnacceptable. They have 1Mbit of ram in the design to buffer three seconds of sound to account for compression variation, tracking loss, and other glitches and come out continuous and uninterrupted. (The player actually keeps going for three seconds after you pull out the CD!) This is not the same as the format they are proposing for MPEG sound compression, implying that the MPEG proposal is older and not as good. Mark Adler madler@tybalt.caltech.edu