Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu!news From: ivgate!inns!mike.riddle@uunet.uu.net (Mike Riddle) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: hayes lawsuit Message-ID: <1991May26.115728.12448@unlinfo.unl.edu> Date: 26 May 91 11:57:28 GMT References: <1991May26.044320.5542@clark.edu> Sender: news@unlinfo.unl.edu Distribution: usa Organization: Nebraska Inns of Court Lines: 78 Nntp-Posting-Host: hoss.unl.edu Cc: riddle@hoss.unl.edu In <1991May26.044320.5542@clark.edu> apollo@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Amrit Chauhan) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from petrilli@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu > Can someone please give a real quick overview of the lawsuit. I >just picked up this feed and don't know what it's about. Hayes holds a patent which includes "escape guard time sequence" if I remember it right. This is part of a larger patent and is either a software patent or is in the interstitial area where software and hardware intersect. From a public policy perspective, the difference is important. The area of software patents is unsettled. The question is necessary because, arguably, copyright doesn't adequately protect the intellectual property of the commercial software author. If it did, then it might be bad, since copyright protection lasts a /long/ time. Patent protection, on the other hand, lasts only 17 years. While that's arguably still too long for an empheral area like software, it's better than the lifetime or 75 years afforded by copyright. Of course, both patent and copyright require some uniqueness and originality. What is original then may not seem original now, and whether it was original enough then may be open to dispute. In the Hayes case, apparently for commercial economic reasons, most modem vendors seem to license the technology from Hayes rather than risk a fight. Hayes appears to grant a non-exclusive license for a commerically reasonable fee. Some vendors sued to invalidate the patent. Hayes filed a response supporting the patent and counter-sued for infringement. The district court threw out the vendors' suit, holding the patent was clearly legal (or more likely that there was substantial evidence to support the decision of the Patent and Trademark Office--this is speculation since I've only seen reports of the decision, not the decision itself). Then the jury ruled for Hayes on the infringement, and the judge applied that portion of the law allowing double damages as punitive damages. The issue becomes controversial because we have no legal form of protection for intellectual property that really seems suitable for software, at least not from a policy perspective. If you grant that Hayes made an original contribution, you still can argue or agree that 17 years (patent) is too long to grant exclusivity. The contribution to the art, given the rate of change in computer technology, seems to require a shorter period. Since the Congress has not acted, the Courts have been creative in trying to adapt the current statutory law to meet the perceived needs. There is a good discussion of the policy issues and the state of the U.S. law concerning them and copyright/patent protection for software in Styrcula, The Adequacy of Copyright Protection for Computer Software in the European Community 1992: A critical Analysis of the EC's Draft Directive, Jurimetrics Journal of Law, Science and Technology, Spring, 1991 (available at most law libraries). Note that the Hayes decision is still subject to appeal, so many or most of the principals will not comment. Most of the discussion, including this post, is based on bits and pieces accumulated from a variety of sources and is subject to modification. Most of the discussion is heavily overlaid with personal feelings on the policy issue, and thus rarely addresses the legal correctness of the current decision. The one thing most commentators might agree on is that the law concerning software protection is a mess, generates excessive profits for the brotherhood of lawyers, and should be addressed by Congress. As for me, if they can't solve an easy problem like the national debt, how will they ever understand or fix this one? Please remember the standard disclaimer: No one, including me, can claim responsibility for what I say. -- <<<< insert standard disclaimer here >>>> riddle@hoss.unl.edu | Nebraska Inns of Court ivgate!inns!postmaster@uunet.uu.net | +1 402 593 1192 Sysop of 1:285/27@Fidonet | 3/12/24/9600/8N1/V.32/V.42bis