Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!uunet!abvax!iccgcc!kambic From: kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (George X. Kambic, Allen-Bradley Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Message-ID: <4659.283b7cef@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> Date: 23 May 91 13:27:26 GMT References: <1991May9.053311.800@netcom.COM> <4563.282e83ea@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> <1991May14.150350.2837@den.mmc.com> <1991May15.180943.6796@netcom.COM> <1991May15.223135.12381@m.cs.uiuc.edu> Lines: 14 In article <1991May15.223135.12381@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, marick@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Brian Marick) writes: > jls@netcom.COM (Jim Showalter) writes: [...] > The modern approach, following Taguchi, Deming, and company, has (in > principle) abandoned a measurement (cost of quality) and replaced it > with a system of faith that asserts that increased quality is *always* > cost-effective. In this case, the faith has worked better than the > metric. The system of faith is what software engineering has been operating on all along. Even Deming et. al. need some measurement. You cannot tell where you are going on faith alone. GXKambic standard disclaimer