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From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Short Hello World
Message-ID: <21854@cbmvax.commodore.com>
Date: 23 May 91 22:12:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbmvax.21854
References: <4969@orbit.cts.com>
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
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In article <4969@orbit.cts.com> chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:
>The point isn't weather they will or won't.  the point is that the old
>functions are doing things that commodore doesn't want people doing any more. 
>commodore has flagged them as obsolete and has told EVERYONE not to use them
>anymore.

	In some cases this is more true than others.  An example of something
that may NOT be supported "forever" is Forbid-locking the Dos device list.
Forbid-locking of that list is and always has been broken.  Under 2.0, the
new functions do Forbid/Permits for compatibility, but they include the
warning that that may well go away in some future major release.  The time
from now to then gives everyone a chance to get ready and upgrade.  There's
no guarantee that we'll remove the Forbid/Permit when we say it's no longer
a supported practice, but don't count on that.

>you've been warned people.

	Another idea we've had on the back burner for at least the last 3
years is the infamous "sysmung" version of the system for developers.  This
would be a version with all the cruelty toys like mungwall built in, extensive
parameter error checking, and with all kludges removed and restrictions
enforced.  Who want's to bet their software will pass it?  (actually, with
enforcer, mungwall, and memoration probably a LOT more than would have a year
ago).  This would be way too slow and large for general use, however.

	If someone has time burning a hole in their pockets, it'd be fairly
easy to do subsets of this for specific libraries/etc.

-- 
Randell Jesup, Jack-of-quite-a-few-trades, Commodore Engineering.
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Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion.
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