Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!stanford.edu!msi.umn.edu!src.honeywell.com!mail-enters-news From: ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Sideer Hard Drive CRASH! (can adat be retrieved?) Message-ID: <9105241438.AA04600@tyrell.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> Date: 24 May 91 14:38:34 GMT Sender: daemon@src.honeywell.com Organization: Honeywell, Inc. Lines: 58 Department: Software Engineering To: comp.sys.apple2 Posted-Date: Fri, 24 May 91 9:38:34 CDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 64.9] Phone: (612) 785-4343 Mail-Station: MN51-1335 Disclaimer: I speak for me and not my boss Honeywell's gain & Usenet's loss Project: Advanced ADIRS Car: (612) 865-4301 Voice-Mail: (612) 785-4600 x8528 Received-Date: Fri, 24 May 91 09:38:46 CDT Snail-Mail: 8840 Evergreen Blvd Coon Rapids, Minnesota 55433-6040 Division: Commercial Flight Systems Internet: hackman@pnet51.orb.mn.org Hello, My Side D4 40 MB Hard Drive (First Class Peripherals) crashed a few days ago. It had been 2.5 years since it last crashed, so I wasn't too surprised. I have an Apple IIgs, if that matters. Here's what I noticed prior to the incident: * When modeming, the hard drive is never accessed unless I am uploading or downloading (which I wasn't) * I was modeming and hadn't typed anything for about five minutes * The read/write light came on for about a second * I finished up what I was doing (took about three minutes) and went to the "park heads" selection from the menu. * For the first time in three years, it didn't say "heads parked - power down"; it just went to a black screen and didn't take any input * I powered down to let it cool down (guessing that might be the problem, thought I had only been on for an hour or so) * An hour later, I turned the computer back on, but there was no response from the hard drive. No whirring of the motor/fan, no lights... nothing. * I powered back down and brought over a friend with a volt meter - every- thing checked out ok. * During one power-on, the hard drive started, but never made it up to full speed. Something smelled like it was hot, so powered back down. Now, the questions: * What do the experts here think is wrong? Power supply, head crash, other? * What's the best way to get it fixed? Last time I sent it back to First Class (or Programs Plus, I don't remember which) and had a new one in 5 days. All data was lost since they just send out a new unit. I asked if it were possible to retain the data, no matter what they had to charge me. They said "no". I assume the answer will be the same this time. * I checked a few places in town, but none will service third-party peripherals, only stuff made by Apple Computer. * So, is there any way to get the data off of the hard drive? Right now this is more important than getting the drive fixed. * On a side note: does any company make internal hard drives for the GS (obviously it would have to bee on a card since there's no room in the casing for a traditional internal HD). If so, what is the largest (most MB), who sells it, and how much is it? Thanks in advance, for any help you can give. -- --Otto "HACK-MAN" Heuer C, Pascal, Fortran, BASIC, Assembly Language, Snobol, Ada, APL, Prolog, LISP Unix, MS-DOS, ProDOS . . . .... . . . . . . . Audio/Video ottoh@cfsmo.honeywell.com :..: .:.:. : :.' .. :`.': .:.:. :`. : Star Trek hackman@pnet51.orb.mn.org : : : : :... : `. : : : : : `: Apple IIgs ------I speak for me and not my boss--Honeywell's gain and Usenet's loss.------