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From: uace0@menudo.uh.edu (Michael B. Vederman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: GEM Windows/Stay-resident program
Message-ID: <1991May25.162724.4501@menudo.uh.edu>
Date: 25 May 91 16:27:24 GMT
References: <1991May23.102120.938@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <1991May23.134905.18328@menudo.uh.edu> <1991May24.182259.21330@imada.ou.dk>
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Klaus Pederson writes:
NO YOU WOULD NOT!! WE DON'T NEED MORE BAD SOFTWARE!!!
There is not enough hacker in you - a real hacker would not spend hours,
trying to figure out what a bit in os-private-area is doing. A real hacker
would monitor wind_close,wind_new,wind_open. (and tell everybody that it
don't work from the desktop).
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Sometimes to get a very desirable prgram running, you have to break the
rules.  Sometimes to get the features people want, you have to do whatever
it takes to get it done.

Then you just add the following to your documentation:

"This program uses several undocumented memory locations.  These locations
are not documented and are subject to change in TOS revisions.  We will
continue to support this product and make any changes required due to TOS
revisons resulting in the changing of these undocumented locations.  We will
also provide updates due to such circumstances for free or at a minimal
shipping cost."

This is verbatim from our DC Desktop manual.  We also list what trap vectors
we monitor and modify/use.

Our recently posted DC Topper also has a strong warning about its use of
undocumented TOS/GEM structures (including window resources and tracking).
Many, many people have been asking for a program like DC Topper (which
tops the window under the mouse automatically) since I've had access to the
net.  I'd say the 'bad programming' was worth it.  It was the fourth best
download on GEnie for April/May and has been widely praised by many...

Caveat emptor - Let the buyer beware.

We are very deliberate in letting people know that we break the rules in
order to give them the feature(s) they demanded.

It is an individuals choice whether they wish to benefit from such a
program.  Otherwise, somethings would never be done.

- mike

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