Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!pacbell.com!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!widener!netnews.upenn.edu!msuinfo!frith.egr.msu.edu!petersor From: petersor@frith.msu.edu (Rick Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: HP-UX features Message-ID: <1991May24.152621.9993@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Date: 24 May 91 15:26:21 GMT Sender: news@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering Lines: 35 Originator: petersor@frith.egr.msu.edu I have just been catching up on new from the past couple of weeks. It seems that the primary justification from HP for failing to include useful features in HP-UX is ROI (this argument is explicit in postings w.r.t. disk partitions and terminal support in SAM). HP, what is the cost of the lost sales due to the failure to include features your users want/need? A couple of years back we bought a bunch of HP 9000/3xx workstations instead of Sun's (which we already had a lot of), and a little more recently some 400t/425's. The primary reason for this was the low cost negotiated with HP. Since then we have regreted the decision due to the lack of needed features and difficulty to manage (vs. other UNIX OS's). We are once again looking at purchasing some additional machines (as we often are). This time HP's will be a hard sell whatever the price. The graphics performance is great, and the price/performance of the Snakes sure is tempting, but the lack of needed features in HP-UX and the difficulty to manage makes HP a difficult choice. HP, what will it cost you to loose these and other sales? What will it cost you that students here and elsewhere, tomorrow's customers, are learning from first hand experience the failings of HP-UX (in our labs here, Sun's are almost always in use, often with other people waiting, while at the same time most of our HP's sit idle - sort of reminds you of the dog food taste test commercials :-) )? Rather than trying to justify based on ROI the failure to include features your users need, you might be better off to start listening to your customers. I suspect that we would gladly pay somewhat increased prices to get HP's high performance graphics and the performance of the Snakes IF HP-UX met our needs in terms of features and quality. Rick Peterson | petersor@egr.msu.edu College of Engineering | (517) 355-7435 Michigan State University | The opinions expressed are my own and do not represent the opinions of Michigan State University.