Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!mcsun!ukc!mucs!logitek!grep!vic From: vic@grep.co.uk (Victor Gavin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: Re: SAM Message-ID: <1991May24.165007.21851@grep.co.uk> Date: 24 May 91 16:50:07 GMT References: <1331@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk> <5570642@hpfcdc.HP.COM> Reply-To: vic@grep.co.uk (Victor Gavin) Organization: Grep Limited, LEEDS, UK Lines: 32 In article wayne@dsndata.uucp (Wayne Schlitt) writes: >In article <5570642@hpfcdc.HP.COM> perry@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes: >> >When SAM replaced reconfig in HP-UX 7, I wish they had written it >> >to allow the "-m" option as in reconfig, so that you could run it >> >in line mode on a non-HP screen. >> We added vt100 and wyse30 support for 8.0. Does this help ? >what about just supporting terminfo and be done with it? The first problem is that HP decided to use a product called JAM (JYACC application manager) to write SAM. But JAM didn't support the HP term0 terminals very well, so HP found a way for it to do all that they wanted. But now they couldn't use ordinary terminals because they didn't have some of the facilities that they needed for SAM (like on screen softkeys). The second problem is that HP still doesn't have an up-to-date version of terminfo and curses to allow better support of softkeys and colours (amongst other things). They seem determined not to update to the facilities available under System V.3 The solution would be to have something like CUSTOM for SCO unix, which doesn't depend upon softkeys but uses lotus-style option selection bars. Other than that the rest is just form filling in. Of course SCO uses the FORMS/MENU stuff that comes with System V.3 which HP doesn't support/supply. Other than that I think SAM's pretty good except when it isn't and then it's a pain. vic