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From: pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: QuickMail server preventing backups under System 7 ....
Summary: Suggestions for a workaround sought.
Keywords: Retrospect Quickmail FileShare
Message-ID: <1991May23.045407.24758@CAM.ORG>
Date: 23 May 91 04:54:07 GMT
Organization: Altitude.CAM.ORG, St-Lambert QC  CANADA
Lines: 63

I was told today by DANTZ (makers of Retrospect, the best reason NEVER to
touch FastBack II again :-) ) that the reason I've been having system
hangs while backing up my machine under system 7 is that Retrospect and
QuickMail server REALLY don't get along well.

I know that QuickMail Server does lots of bizzare stuff to make sure that
it gets enough CPU time and doesn't miss an interrupt (result : SE Ethernet
cards don't work with it, can't format floppies on Server, etc....).

I'm running the following software on 5meg IIcx 5/80 to serve a small 
workgroup of 5 people:

Dedicated Mac IIcx (not on anyone's desk....) runs:

System 7.0 golden master
Apple Internet Router 2.0 (will get dumped as soon as Liasion 3.0.2 upgrade
is delivered!)
Emac Speedlink II v2.5 .ENET driver
EtherTalk 2.0 (yeah, I know I should be running 2.2, I'll do that tomorrow)
QuickMail Server v2.2.3
Retrospect SCSI init
Retrospect Sheduler init

Under MultiFinder....

Retrospect 1.2
QuickMail Administrator (for our gateways)
Database Server (Faircom cTree server 4.3)
FileShare (of the whole disk)


This combination provides | EMail/Gatewaying/Routing/FileSharing/Backup/
Distributed Database | in a single system (I had to run that by the Dantz
tech support guy 3 or 4 times, I guess he thought I was nuts !!!).

The backup is done on an Emac Impact tape 150 (150meg TEAC cassette
mechanism).

Since backups require about 20-30 minutes, I would like to have these done
at night ON THE SERVER.  I could backup with the Teac on a workstation
Via Ethernet but I would rather have the whole thing centralized.

So basically, is there a way to "temporarily" kill the QuickMail server 
during the night, perform the backup and then reinstall the QuickMail server
after the backup has been done?   I have thought of making some kind of
huge QuickKeys macro to do this, but I would rather avoid this type of
kludge.

Will Quickmail v2.5 solve the problem?  Should I (*GASP*) use FastBack II
instead of Retrospect to try to solve the problem (note: I hate FB II and
will only use it if I'm really desperate) ?  Or should I chicken out and
do the backups via an Ethernet LC workstation (AppleShare Client with
the whole server HD mounted) ???

I remember having done backups with QuickMail server ACTIVE under
System 7.0b4. In fact, everything worked fine under b4 !!!  Downgrade time??


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