Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac.hardware:11480 comp.sys.mac.system:6139 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!ukma!vlsi!ulkyvx.bitnet!jnsims01 From: jnsims01@ulkyvx.bitnet Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: A Classic Dead End? Message-ID: <1991May23.113817.360@ulkyvx.bitnet> Date: 23 May 91 11:38:16 EDT References: <1991May17.153503.21947@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1991May17.162934.29993@midway.uchicago.edu> Distribution: usa Organization: University of Louisville Lines: 56 In article <1991May17.162934.29993@midway.uchicago.edu>, jcav@quads.uchicago.edu (john cavallino) writes: > In article <1991May17.153503.21947@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> bgrubb@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu writes: >>... This leaves the Classic owner in trouble as far as memory expansion >>is conserned because the Classic Maxes out at 4 meg. > > The 68000 can address a maximum of 16mb. The Classic will never allow > more than 4mb of RAM for hardware reasons ... I think that the Classic as > currently designed was a bad move on Apple's part. I think we're confusing some issues here, and blaming Apple for erroneous assumptions made by purchasers. *THIS IS NOT INTENDED AS FLAME*, only a more-or-less thoughtful observation. If I want reliable transportation for commuting and great gas mileage, I buy an econobox. If I want to look flashy but not go real fast, I buy a psuedo sports car that gets reasonable gas mileage and has a small engine. If I want to look real flashy and go real fast, I grit my teeth and shell out for a *real* sports car with every luxury, appearance, and mechanical bell-and-whistle. In other words, *I* have to do a reality check to balance my desires and my resources. This may include recognition that my Ford Festiva can under no circumstances be regarded as a Ferrari and in no circumstances should I expect it to perform like one. I bought my Classic fully aware of its limitations. But then I've also been a Mac user since the beginning, and know that there are programs that I will not be able to effectively run for speed or size reasons, that I'm going to have to be prepared to wait a while for things to load or process, that I'm not going to be able to add plug-and-play color or large displays, and so forth. What Apple has done is to provide a range of hardware options to which I can match my resources for the mutual satisfaction of their desire for my money and my desire to get the work I have to do done at a reasonable cost. Note that I am *not* defending misrepresentation of capability on Apple's part (ref. the 32-bit ROM issue on machines where the literature implied capability and/or an upgrade) nor am I defending the same sin on the dealer's part ("Sure you can run your DTP, accounting, and CAD systems at the same time on a Classic ... just sign here!") My objection is to the (assumably) knowledgeable folks who spend the bucks for 60 horsepower and then fuss that the unit they bought won't go 160 mph in the .25 mile. All I'm saying is that if you want certain function/performance levels, grit your teeth and buy the appropriate hardware. If those levels of price and performance are not available from Apple for what you want to buy, don't buy their products. And if you find after a period of use that your expectations/needs/desires have changed recognize that *you* have changed, not your hardware, and be willing to pay the cost to satisfy your new wants. I repeat that this is not intended as flame, so don't return any flame. Further sensible discussion of this issue is, of course, welcome. And keep smiling! My wife AND my employer ignore my opinions - feel free to do the same! ........................................................................ . John Norman Sims, Jr. / BITNET: JNSIMS01@ULKYVM or JNSIMS01@ULKYVX . . Univ. of Louisville / Computing & Telecommunications / (502)588-5565 . ........................................................................ You can't win, you can't break even, and you can't get out of the game