Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!n8emr!cmhgate!p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Adam.Frix From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) Sender: ufgate@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: 32 bit addressing Message-ID: <266626.283C328F@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG> Date: Thu, 23 May 91 01:50:56 EST Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH kurtzman@pollux.usc.edu (Stephen Kurtzman) writes to Jim Spencer: >What nonsense. First, do you really think that NeXT or Sun will >treat you better. SK> What nonsense. That other companies might be as unresponsive SK> and deceptive as Apple has been on the 32-bit clean issue does SK> not excuse Apple. The original poster made the comment that, given Apple's stance on this issue, he is seriously thinking about switching companies that he buys hardware for. Mr. Spencer merely pointed out that the original poster isn't necessarily going to get better service from anyone else--the original poster's implication being that another company _will_ provide better service. Mr. Spencer was not attempting to excuse Apple; he was merely pointing out a simple fact of life. Sprint pissed you off one day over one small issue, so you go storming off to MCI in a huff. You're acting irrationally. Same goes for the original poster. No excuse of Apple was ever offered, only an attempt to shed some light on a knee-jerk reaction. >Second, unless you have a problem most of us don't, your machine is >NOT defective. It does exactly what it was designed to do in exactly >the way it was designed to do it. SK> What utter nonsense. When the technical specification in my SK> owner's manual says that the machine is designed to accept 4mb SK> simms and it doesn't, then it is not doing what it was designed SK> to do. It may still be highly useful, but if it fails to meet SK> the design characteristics advertised by Apple, then it is defective SK> nonetheless. Again, will you please READ what Apple claimed???? Your machine is designed to accept 4MB SIMMs, and accept 4MB SIMMs it does. Ergo, it's not defective. Exactly how does your machine not accept said SIMMs? Oh, you mean that your OPERATING SYSTEM can't use them in a manner that's acceptable to you. (Please note that if you install 32MB of RAM, your About the Finder shows some 24+ megs of RAM in the System heap. That's how the OS handles the extra RAM. It can't, but it fakes it.) Well, then, you best go looking for some advertising blurb from Apple that says you can use all that RAM under the Macintosh OS. THEN go and make a stink about it. Until then, A/UX runs on an SE/30 and a IIcx and a IIx and a II, and addresses all the RAM that the machine is capable of stuffing in there. So it looks to me like Apple's claim that the machine can handle 4MB SIMMs, and any implied claims therein that you can use it all, are not deceptions after all. They are the truth, plain and simple. Don't blame Apple because you can't read what they wrote. Does anyone actually read what's posted, or do you all make shit up to quote and flame? --Adam-- -- Adam Frix via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH UUCP: ...!osu-cis!n8emr!cmhgate!20.18!Adam.Frix INET: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG