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From: rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts)
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Subject: Re: 32 bit roms
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Date: 24 May 91 05:10:26 GMT
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>Au contraire.  Mr. Spencer knows _exactly_ of what he speaks; he _has_ read the manuals.  He read exactly what you read:  that the machine, the hardware, your SE/30 sitting on a table, can physically accept 128MB of RAM.  What Mr. Spencer sees is what I see, and what you are overlooking completely:  that Apple never made any statements of any kind concerning the conditions under which that lump of plastic and metal and chips can actually use the 128MB of RAM.  Go back and read your manual, sir.  Better ye






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>, read what I've quoted you as repeating from your manual.  Apple makes no warrantees concerning how you can use that memory.  Go forth and get A/UX.  Use it all.  But Apple never, ever made any claims that its Macintosh operating system would ever take advantage of it all in your SE/30.
>Adam Frix 

Sorry Adam, I could not pass this up...

The SE/30 manual says 'Because applications written for earlier models of
Macintosh computers expect only a 24-bit address bus, and because newer software
for the Macintosh SE/30 uses the full 32-bit addressing, the Macintosh SE/30
functions in either  a 24-bit or 32-bit mode." Which is a bold face LIE, as
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
all of us who have been following this KNOW the SE/30 DOES NOT OPERATE IN A 32-
BIT MODE. (pg. 26, Mac SE/30 Owners Guide.)

I will note there is no mention of upgrading ROM, but on the IIcx literature it
does say '>Socket for ROMs on SIMM (Single Inline Memory Module)... Makes it
easy to install SIMM-mounted ROM when upgrading or servicing.'
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Again, it does not say upgrades _will_ be forthcoming, but the option is there.
But I'd like to ask... how many have had the ROM fail itself? Not because of
someother cause, the ROM just "died..." c'mon, that's kinda lame. There is also
no mention of 'upgrade' on the IIx or /30 sheets either, for the record.

No bashing intended, Adam... I'm just starting to get tired of what appears to 
be a rather apparent false promise from Apple. Do I need full 32bit addressing
now? Probablly not. But remember... two years ago, 2 meg was a Christly huge
amount of memory... and I feel I've been a bit screwed...

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