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From: farmer@ecs.umass.edu (THE MAD MUSKRAT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System 7: Crash and Burn...
Message-ID: <13809.283cfa73@ecs.umass.edu>
Date: 24 May 91 11:35:15 GMT
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Hi,

More fun and excitement in the still buggy land of System 7.  I have happily 
(with emphasis added) been using 7 for nearly a week now without a glitch 
(other than installing the bugger).  Then suddenly some wierdness happened:

I decided to open the color cdev (despite the fact that I was on a B&W SE/30, 
just curious) and my hard drive started to run.  I ran for ~3 minutes before I
hit the programmer's switch, at which point the drive light stayed on and I was 
in macbug.  I tried a 'es' and an 'rs' to no avail...and finally hit the 
reset switch.

Now my mac rebooted, the happy mac came up, and then the drive stopped 
running (before I even saw the welcome to macintosh).  Then just the blinking 
question mark.  I restarted again, and same problem.  By this point you can 
image my undergarments were tinted.....

I booted on floppy (fortunately I had made a floppy boot for just such an 
emergency) and my mac and hard-drive came up!!  I took my system out of the 
system folder and copied the system from my floppy boot in it's place.  Now I 
rebooted without a problem.

However, all my fonts were in my nuked system.....Now the fun begins!!

I tried to use ResEdit 2.1 to verify my bad system.  I got most of the way 
through and told me that there was indeed an error -39 (which I looked up and 
it appears to be an unexpected EOF error).  Fine, resedit asked me if I wished 
to repair the file...Naturally I did.  Then resedit informed me I was out of 
disk space (a legitimate gripe).  So after much compression I had 4 Meg free 
(my system file is only 2.5Meg big).

Now resedit was kind enough to try the recovery.  When it got going it 
informed me it was dangerously low on memory.  So I kicked it up to 2.5Meg of 
my Ram and tried again (I gave the same error when I gave it 1.5 -- even 
though the recommeneded amount is ~500K).

Now things were going and I was hopefull.  However half way through the 
repair resedit hung!  I tried three times with duplicate problem.  Naturally 
of course I had yet to back up my TT fonts (though I could re-ftp them).  So 
I am to blame for my own bad luck I suppose.

Finally, I have dumped the system in the trash, and I am working on getting 
my fonts back.

I just decided to post this long winded story to see if anyone else has had 
similar problems..

BTW my system is:
Mac se/30
5Meg RAM
40Meg internal sony drive (apple issue)

Also, when are we going to see a sys7 compatible norton or symantic utilities 
(I would have ordered it immediately)??

happy mac'ing once again,

Matt Farmer
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