Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ncar!news.miami.edu!umiami!gross From: gross@umiami.ir.miami.edu (Mondo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Good Stuff & Bad Stuff about System 7 Message-ID: <1991May21.035502.10050@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: 21 May 91 07:55:02 GMT Organization: Univ. of Miami - Info Resources Lines: 75 Well, just to add to the fire...here are some of my experiences with good ol' System 7... First off...beautiful job...my SE even seems quite responsive...more so than some of the 386 machines running Windows I get to play with now and then. But I don't want this to degrade into a another Mac vs. X-product so I'll stop this thought right here. :) Even some of my odd games and weird apps from years back still work...amazing job...many kudos to the System 7 development people. But for every good side...there is a bad. The new Clean Up is a bit draconian...if a name overlaps another, Clean Up zings the icon into netherland. Most annoying. If I want my names to overlap, by geroge I should be allowed to let them overlap! Also, I know you can Clean Up by by holding down the option key, but it seems a bit wasteful to have to go to an outline view, then back to icon view, then clean up by the last outline view. Should be an easier way to select the cleap up method. Oh, Apple keeps saying the Font/DA Mover is obsolete now...but just what trick do ya use otherwise to get fonts and DAs *back* into suitcases... ohhhhhh. :) And printing....egads....is slow. I mean not just slow...but slow. I hope the print archintecture will speed things up. We've set up a lab of Macs with 7.0 all hooked up to one printer. Biggest complaint so far is the printing speed. Also, PrintMontior (though I tend to think it's Word) seems to have tendency to crash on a 2.5M SE when it is in a bind for memory (so I guess). As for other bugs....I too have experienced the un-updated size indicators on Finder windows...saw it 7.0b4 too...hoped they would've fixed it. I've also seen the blobish watch cursor occasionally...just seems to happen at random times...(I assume that some resource is being purged prematurely to make space for something else). I haven't experienced the trash can alias problem...but then again I don't have IIcx either. :) On problem I do seem to have is random losing of one or two icons. I mean one time they're there...the next they're not. Even if I rebuild the desktop they don't reappear. But later on...they come back. I've seen this happen on a SE and a Mac II (you don't want to know all the extensions we have on that poor Mac II..suffice it to say that it's probably the most well-connected Mac II in the South Florida area :) ) Oh just one or two more things...while I have yer attention... 1) Why didn't Apple make all the standard fotns they include TrueType fonts? 2) Now that the control panel DA is gone..how do we reset the P-ram? I've got a Mac II that insists that Chicago is the default app font..and PRAM 5.0 can't reset it. What to do? And finally, despite what Apple says, 2MB is just horrid to try and System 7 under. I've seen a Classic and LC with the 2MB configurations and System 7...how many apps do you think you can run in the available 500 or so K left over? Precious few. Apple better think about adding more RAM to those babies..just like they added another meg to the IIsi. All in all, System 7 does a lot of neat things...especially in network situations...so I guess you can say I'm pleased with the final product...but look forward to 7.1 already. :) Thanks for your time and trouble. The world will end in 10 seconds. -- Jason Gross Comp Sci Ugrad University of Miami Class of '91 (?) =========================================================================== Hey, wanna save the world? | Got sumtin' to say? gross@umiami.bitnet Nuke a Godless, Communist, | Pick and choose! gross@umiami.ir.miami.edu gay whale for Christ. | gross@miavax.ir.miami.edu - Anonymous | jgross@umbio.med.miami.edu =========================================================================== The University of Miami has a lovely fountain.