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From: wb9omc@ee.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
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Subject: Re: Air Guns
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Date: 23 May 91 15:45:30 GMT
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everex!jde%zardoz.uucp@ics.uci.edu (-Jeff Ellis()) writes:
#Ok... for all of you air guns users out there, I have a few questions.
#I would like to get a air pistol to get more low cost practice in. 
#I currently own a SA .45 Goverment model, but can't get range time as much
#as I would like to....
#I have been looking into getting a .177 to shoot in the back yard or indoors
#but want a good adult air gun. So have been looking at the Beeman P-1 magnum
#or maybe a Webley Tempest or Hurricane. Has anybody out there used one of these

	Jeff, 
	I think the guns you mentioned are pretty pricy items.  If you
want to shoot indoors at a 10-meter distance, you might want to try
one of the better Crosman air pistols.  I own a 357-6 which was cheap,
by comparison (about $45.00) and is surprisingly accurate for the price.
I'd like to get the -8 kit which lets you remove the 6" barrel and plop
on an 8" barrel (for combat shooters there is also a -4 kit although
personally I never saw the utility of combat airgun shooting.....).
A step up would be either the Medalist or American Classic - if I recall
correctly they are similar but one is .177 and the other .22.

Their competitors at Daisy offer some air pistols that are decidedly
a step up in the 7xx series, the 717, 747 and 777.  The 777 is pretty
expensive, methinks, maybe over $150 but is reputed to be fairly
good for the price.  A coworker has a 747 (I think) and says it is really
quite nice.

BTW, when I shoot my 357-6 at 10-meter targets, I had been using the
*rifle* targets, which are rather smaller than 10-meter pistol targets.
The 357-6 will dump 7 or 8 or 9 out of ten shots (given a good CO2
powerlet.....it IS a gas gun) inside about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch from center
if I hold it steady.  If I don't, well......  :-)

The other Crosmans I mentioned are both pump-up types if I have recalled
the models correctly (I don't own either one due to limited budget....).

If you want hard data, well, I don't have it at work.  I *think* the
357-6 shoots something like 380 FPS on a full powerlet while adding
the -8 barrel supposedly takes you to around 400 to 420.....I'm trying
to regurgitate this from memory, so if it isn't quite right you'll
know why.

Duane