Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hpfcso!hpfcdj!sjk From: sjk@hpfcdj.HP.COM (Steve Kommrusch) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Animal planning Message-ID: <17580001@hpfcdj.HP.COM> Date: 22 May 91 23:15:22 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard -- Fort Collins, CO Lines: 58 Howdy netland, Some friends of mine and I were wondering about the particulars of planning in animals. The only examples of animal planning which we are aware of involve actions taken in response to a current desire. And we were wondering if there are examples of animals planning for a future desire that is clearly NOT instinctive. For example, I have heard of an experiment where a banana was hung high above the floor and a monkey (chimp?) had to arrange boxes so as to reach the banana. This is a good example of planning for a current desire (the monkey wanted the banana). Several good natural examples of planning for a current desire also exist. There is a primate (an ape or gorilla I think) which will go under tree branches and arrange them to form a canopy when it begins raining. (Had the primate built this canopy before any indications of rainfall existed, this would be a good example of planning for future desires). Additionally, the simple act of heading towards a stream when an animal is thirsty could be considered planning for a current desire. Some examples in nature which appear to be planning for future desires but are instinctive would be: nest building in birds, collecting nuts in squirrels, dam building in beavers, tigers cacheing leftovers, etc. etc. A natural example which might convince me that the animal was planning for future desires would be habitat building in species which do not always build habitats. For example, I do not know if ALL wolves dig dens (thus implying it is instinctive), but if wolves in certain climates did not build them because they were not needed, then the wolves which do dig dens (in Alaska wolves dig dens) could be said to be planning for the future desire of being dry and warm. The clearest proof of planning for future desires would be a controlled experiment. Consider a captive chimp held in a room in which artificial hail falls every 48-72 hours. This chimp has been provided with the materials she needs to build a complex shelter (3 or 4 minutes for the chimp to build the shelter). For this experiment, it is not important if she figured out how to build the shelter herself, so lets say we taught her. So, when it starts hailing, our intrepid chimp builds the shelter in the storm and hangs out until the hail stops (a half-hour later, say). After 2-24 hours, we go in and dismantle the shelter. After a sufficient number of hailstorms, will the chimp realize she should build the shelter soon after we dismantle it, or will she always build it AFTER the hail begins falling? Are there good examples of animals planning for future desires? Inquiring minds want to know. Steve Kommrusch sjk@hpfcsjk@hplabs.hp.com Disclaimer: After putting up with the inquisitive biologists, the chimp in the hailstorm experiment was flown to a Carribean island where she lived happily ever after on bananas and cream pies for the rest of her natural life.