Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!ils.nwu.edu!aristotle.ils.nwu.edu!shafto From: shafto@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Eric Shafto) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Animal planning Message-ID: <1850@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> Date: 24 May 91 15:02:47 GMT References: <17580001@hpfcdj.HP.COM> Sender: news@ils.nwu.edu Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Lines: 41 sjk@hpfcdj.HP.COM (Steve Kommrusch) writes: > > Howdy netland, > > Some friends of mine and I were wondering about the particulars of > planning in animals. The only examples of animal planning which we > are aware of involve actions taken in response to a current desire. > And we were wondering if there are examples of animals planning for > a future desire that is clearly NOT instinctive. > > For example, I have heard of an experiment where a banana was hung > high above the floor and a monkey (chimp?) had to arrange boxes > so as to reach the banana. This is a good example of planning for > a current desire (the monkey wanted the banana). > Unfortunately, I can't remember where I read this, but I've been meaning to ask someone if it was true for quite a while, anyway. Supposedly, some researchers following a chimp troop heard some strange chimp noises coming from another troop. They followed the noise, and found the troop gathered outside the den of some large cat (Leopard?). The three biggest males were standing just outside the entrance, yelling and waving their arms, apparantly to intimidate the leopard. Eventually, they started darting in and out of the den, and finally one of them emerged with a newly born cub, which they then played with until it was dead, and they all left. I cannot conceive of any rationale for that behavior except planning. Of course, it is an evolutionary advantage to do this, so it *could* be instinctual, but I don't know how likely that seems. Anyone have better information? -- *Eric Shafto * Sometimes, I think we are alone. Sometimes I * *Institute for the * think we are not. In either case, the thought * * Learning Sciences * is quite staggering. * *Northwestern University * -- R. Buckminster Fuller *