Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!sdd.hp.com!mips!apple!veritas!amdcad!amdcad!military From: Scott.Johnson@f15.n391.z1.FidoNet.Org (Scott Johnson) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: new soviet tanks Message-ID: <1991May23.055340.14823@amd.com> Date: 18 May 91 14:59:00 GMT Sender: military@amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Lines: 33 Approved: military@amd.com From: Scott.Johnson@f15.n391.z1.FidoNet.Org (Scott Johnson) >The B-17 had a similar problem. On the prototypes for the first turre >armed versions (E, I think) they initially tried to use electrically Nope, they just had the periscopic ventral turret. Everything else was as-is (was?), electrically operated but manually aimed/direct sited. The periscope was notorious for giving the gunners headaches and airsickness, and there was not a single confirmed kill using the thing. Most removed it to save weight. > [OK, so how did the B-29 fix the problem and why couldn't > they use that for the MBT-70? --CDR] The B-29 used a central computer to calculate lead and firing position from information provided by special gunsights (3 in the waist and 1 in the nose). The part that the gunner looked through was little more than an elaborate reflecting gunsight-- no "periscoping" involoved. An interesting note is that the top-waist gunner was the "gun commander", and had complete control over who controlled what turret. Normally he had exclusive controll over the top back turret, the bombadier had primary control of the top forward turret (gun commander had secondary control), and the two waist gunners had the bottom two. Through switches at his station, the gun commander could switch turrets to whomever needed them. This made the B-29 a MOST formidable target, and many times a wounded -29 was protected by an undamaged one. I have read many accounts where the fighters were literally beaten away from the hurt bomber. See ya! Scott J.