Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero-c!nadel From: mjm@ahimsa.intel.com (Marjorie Panditji) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: synonyms Message-ID: <1991May24.220315.10248@aero.org> Date: 24 May 91 17:23:12 GMT Sender: news@aero.org Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA Lines: 47 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org In response to my article complaining about gold digger (and other questionable synonyms for woman) that someone else found listed in a thesaurus, Mara writes: > Ah, yes. But a thesaurus is a tool for finding a word. Under > "virtue," for example ... > > [list of words deleted] > > Certainly I wouldn't assume that I could use these words > interchangeably. I was a little confused by Mara's article on thesaurus entries. It was interesting to read the entries listed, and I agree with many of her comments. But, in the end, I couldn't tell Mara's opinion on gold digger as a synonym for woman (perhaps she wasn't trying to state an opinion on it, but I'm still curious). I realize that a thesaurus is for finding words and that words do not have to be interchangeable in order to be listed as synonyms. I did not intend to convey that message. For example, listing wife or mother under woman makes sense to me, even though these words are clearly not interchangeable. But it does not make sense to me to list a word just because it has a possible connection with women, or to list a word which represents a group which is made up mostly of women. That's why I used the example words rapist and vegetarian. Vegetarians in the U.S. are mostly female (from an article in Vegetarian Times, I realize that this statistic could be out of date by now). Rapists are male in most cases (all cases in some states due to their definition of rape). Yet, I still don't believe that it makes sense for a thesaurus to list rapist for man or vegetarian for woman. I might expect to find gold digger under a heading such as girlfriend or lover (I wouldn't insist that it also be listed under boyfriend, since the I think that the term is used, correctly or incorrectly, mostly to refer to women). But to list gold digger under the generic category of woman? Sorry, it just doesn't make sense to me. I'm certainly glad that all thesauruses (or thesauri, if you prefer) are not created equal. The thesaurus which comes with Word Perfect (it just happened to be handy) provides more reasonable lists for man and woman, in my humble opinion. I'll have to check my "hard copy" :-) thesaurus at home. -- Marjorie Panditji mjm@ahimsa.intel.com -or- uunet!intelhf!ahimsa!mjm