Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: St Paul and Women Message-ID: Date: 27 May 91 03:14:33 GMT Article-I.D.: athos.May.26.23.14.31.1991.24625 Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 36 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article James.Quilty@comp.vuw.ac.nz (James William Quilty) writes: > >NIV: " There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for > you are all one in Christ Jesus." > > God (I believe) wants us all to be equal here on earth, as, indeed, we are >all equal in his sight ! > What does Paul mean by this verse? Do slaves have the right to leave their masters? Paul wrote many times that slaves should obey their masters, even as they were obeying the Lord. Was it no longer proper to use the terms "Jew" and "gentile?" Paul uses both in many of his letters. If slaves still had to obey their masters, and that order of authority was kept in placed, why would the order between man and woman be destroyed. Galatians 3:28 should not be taken out of its context of refereing to the inheritance of the promise. On many occasions, wives were commanded to obey their husbands, both by Paul and also in one of Peter's letters. Paul bases his assertion that women should not teach in church on the Old Testament. Look at I Timothy 2:12-15. Paul breifly recaps the creation and the curse given at the fall. Look at God's curses recorded in the book of Genesis. Do snakes still crawl on the ground? Does the earth grow food for man all by itself, or does man still have to till the soil? Does mankind still return to the dust? Do women still experience pain in childbirth? The answer to allthese questions is "Yes." I left out one part. Do women still have to obey their husbands? Yes. They do. This is what Paul bases his idea that women should not hold authority over men in church on. Link Hudson.