Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Lot, his wife and their daughters( Was Re: I AM DISGUSTED!) Message-ID: Date: 27 May 91 03:20:17 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 26 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article jclark@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes: >Jewish tradition that their sin was a failure of hospitality) Jude 1:7 >refers to fornication and "going after strange flesh" (which has been >taken to mean homosexuality, but seems like an odd expression for it. >Boswell takes it as a reference to a Jewish legend that the women of >Sodom had intercourse with the angels.) --clh] The verse before does mention the angels that left their own habitat, and are reserved in chains of darkness (which is also mentioned, in a longer list of things, in II Peter 2.) Perhaps this is a reference to the sons of God who had children with the daughters of men. The next verse speaks of the Gomorrhans and Sodomites (a loaded word) who gave themselves over to fornication and went after strange flesh. maybe the reference refers to both going after angels and homosexuality (a double whamy: no wonder they were destroyed.) The men of the city did want to have homosexual relations with angels, according to the Scriptures. maybe this is what Jude is talking about. Is ther any Jewish tradition that the angels who took human wives were put in chains of darkness, or could that possibly be a teaching of Christ, that the apostles passed down in their letters. (or the apostle and the Lord's brother.) Link Hudson. [Sorry, I don't know anything more about the tradition than what I mentioned, although I can probably come up with a reference to track down if you want to. --clh]