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From: krista@sandman.hut.fi (Krista Hannele Lagus)
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Subject: Re: Turing Test: opinions on an idea
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Date: 28 May 91 12:55:49 GMT
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In article <1991May16.005158.1822@athena.mit.edu> patl@athena.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti) writes:

>The Turing Test serves to detect intelligence; it gives no guarantee as
>to where that intelligence lies.  Consider the fact that a two-way radio
>passes the TT.  The TT correctly detects the presence of an
>intelligence; it is your own error if you attribute that intelligence to
>the radio.  For the case of Block's device, the intelligence which the
>TT detects is that of the creators of the list.
>
>The only question remaining is, when a computer DOES pass the TT, will
>we be encountering the intelligence of the machine, the creator(s), or
>both?  I suspect the creator(s) would then be in the best position to
>decide...

A very good example and question.

The next step would be to continue this example to humans.  When I
talk to my friend, who am I *really* talking with, his creator?  Who
is the creator of the intelligence in us.  Genes?  Doesn't sound
likely, at least for most part.  Our surroundings?  I'd go for that
one, although it may sound a little strange.  Perhaps, whenever we
discuss with someone, we are discussing with some part of the reality,
the specific part that the individual has encountered, combined with
the person's physical structure. So, where is the intelligence? I am
not very familiar with Spinoza, but he might have something to say to
this....other than that, I have no clue.  Anyone?

>-Pat LoPresti  (patl@athena.mit.edu)

Krista