Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!sdd.hp.com!mips!ptimtc!rdmei!saturn!srl!palm From: palm@srl.mew.mei.co.jp (Steve [kiwin] Palm) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax Subject: Re: Fax / telephone : Seperate lines ? Message-ID: Date: 28 May 91 06:40:48 GMT References: <289@altos86.Altos.COM> <8750001@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> Sender: news@saturn.srl.mew.mei.co.jp Organization: Information/Communication R&D Lab, Matsushita Electric Works Lines: 93 .> |I am considering buying a Fax. My question is, do I have to get .> |a seperate line for the fax or can the same one that I use for .> |my telephone be used for the fax also? In the later case how .> |does the fax machine detect that the incoming call is from another .> |fax ? A while back... i was also concerned about seperating the incoming Phone calls and i used the following info from Robert Chesler. I purchased the unit and am very happy with it. Steve Palm Stephen [Kiwin] Palm palm@mew.mei.co.jp Matsushita Electric Works, Ltd. TEL: -81-6-908-6752 Information & Communication R&D Lab FAX: -81-6-906-0520 1048 Kadoma, Osaka 571, Japan MIC: 2134 ---------------------- From: rtc@westford.ccur.com (Robert Chesler) Newsgroups: alt.fax Subject: Re: FAX Machine at Home: Options for Incoming Transmissions Date: 29 Nov 90 17:48:11 GMT Reply-To: rtc@westford.ccur.com I'm very satisfied with my Autoswitch TF505. [ or TF555 ] Previously, I had a TF300 which I didn't like. The TF505 answers the phone on the first ring. I have a ringer in parallel with it so that I know when an incoming call comes in so I can answer it promplty. It listens for FAX CNG tones, reverse modem carrier (the dial with answer carrier tone), or Touch Tones; while generating a pseudo-ring signal to the caller. It also rings the phones and answering machine while it does this. If it detects FAX CNG it routes the call to the FAX machine, generating a ring voltage on that line, and still generating the pseudo-ring tone to the caller. If it detects the reverse modem tone, it similarly routes the call to the computer. If it detects the sequence of touch tones for FAX, it transfers to FAX, and similarly for the modem. I use 91 and 92 for the extension numbers. Otherwise, the answering machine picks up after 4 rings and my announcement message states "press 91 to send a fax" at the end, so callers hear in my voice the proper instructions. The caller can transfer to either the FAX or the modem from this point, or can just talk to the answering machine. When I call the answering machine remotely to check messages, I send the * touch tone code to tell the autoswitch to do no further transfers for this call just in case I were to send the extension codes while remotely controlling the answering machine. I originally set the device up with extension codes 1 and 2, however two voices on a telephone talking at the sime time can set up a harmonic that sets off the "1" detector circuitry, and causes an awful transfer to the fax machine at the most inappropriate time. I then have to run over to the fax machine and power it off while lifting up the handset so that I can retrieve the voice call, and apologize to my caller. Two other nice features it has are that when one of the three "lines" off the device are using the line (such as fax in progress, or computer using the line) the other two are locked out with a pseudo-busy-signal generated. All three can try for service at the same time, and when the current one using the service finishes, the device gives the outgoing line to one of the devices. It does this in its own sequence, however - fax has highest priority, then computer, then voice phones. The only thing I wish it had that it does not is the ability to emulate the Central Office so that I could dial the fax machine from the computer or dial the answering machine from the fax machine - so that I could play with the remote features of these devices without having 2 phone lines (which I don't have) tied up. [ as in a previous thread ] The device cost me approximately $140 at a local department store, Lechmere. -- Stephen [Kiwin] Palm palm@mew.mei.co.jp Matsushita Electric Works, Ltd. TEL: -81-6-908-6752 Information & Communication R&D Lab FAX: -81-6-906-0520 1048 Kadoma, Osaka 571, Japan MIC: 2134