Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!abvax!iccgcc!herrickd From: herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Amendments Message-ID: <4714.2843d216@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> Date: 29 May 91 21:08:54 GMT References: <14357.2829E99B@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG> Lines: 36 In article <14357.2829E99B@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG>, Tom.Jennings@f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Jennings) writes: > Quoting John Otto's message of 03 May: > > re: "we the people ..." thread > > >There's one place left. In the jury box, you can acquit no matter what > >the judge may desire...John G. Otto jgo@fsu.bitnet jgo@rai.cc.fsu.edu > > True, but the trend is to avoid it. I think there is one state in the US that > requires the court to inform the jury of this. Some actively discourage it. > > There is a group called "Fully Informed Jury Assoc." pushing this very fact, > that it is one of the, if not the most, important check/balance in the Western > legal system. No matter what the evil monsters write for law, if it's unfair, > a jury can override it. > > I don't have contact info on them -- someone here must? (I can if I have to, > lemme know). > Red Benson, the guy who wrote The Law That Never Was about the 16th amendment, has been working to inform people about the responsibilities of jurors, especially with respect to IRS cases. He points out that the Grand Jury is an even more important check than the Petit Jury because, after it is empanelled, the Grand Jury can subpoena public officials and call them to account with respect to their oath of office. He declares that it is the duty of a concerned citizen to lie during the jury empanelling process so that you don't get challenged and kicked out before the jury decides something. The filters are designed to eliminate people who understand the sovereignty of the jury so that the jury can be manipulated by the members of the legal establishment. dan herrick herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com