Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!ucbvax!PRIMERD.PRIME.COM!cummings From: cummings@PRIMERD.PRIME.COM (Kevin J. Cummings) Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Osborne 1 Message-ID: <9105290722.AA00149@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 28 May 91 14:55:16 GMT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9105290722.AA00149 Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 28 I tried conmecting an Osborne 1 to my S100 machine via its SSM IO/4 card. The SSM card would drive RS-232 via a 1488 chip @ +/- 12V, but would receive RS-232 via a couple of transistors (had to do with the board's capability of running current loops instead of EIA, if you strapped it right). The transistor bridge was little more than a voltage divider (it divided the incoming voltage by 3 if I remember right). RS-232 signals which were driven at +/- 12V would be converted to +/-4 Volts, which seems to work OK with the on board TTL circuts. HOWEVER, when I connected this to the Osborne-1 serial port, I was only getting 1-way communication. From the SSM to the osborne worked OK. It was the Osborne to SSM line which didn't work (at all). This turned out to be that the Osborne used a -9V (which while being within the EIA specifications for RS-232C voltages) which is not common. It did however use +12V for the other voltage level. The result was that the SSM receiver would divide the -9 down to -3V which is never-never land for TTL levels, and the SSM board woould fail. (Now before I get flamed, I know that TTL uses 0V (gnd) for 0, and 3.5V or so to about 9V for 1, so I must not be remembering the entire receive circut on the SSM board from memory, and my schematic for it is at home right now. Somewhere the circut converted the +/- signals into +/0V.) While +12/-9 is within the EIA spec, the Osborne is the ONLY peice of RS-232 compliant equipment I have used with my SSM that didn't work (without a -12V pull down being added to the input circut). I therefore have trouble believing that the Osborne uses "normal RS-232 levels". I do however believe that if the SSM board had used a 1489 for its receiver, that it would have "done the right thing" with the signals received from the Osborne. Caveat Empteur.