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From: cmilono@netcom.COM (Carlo Milono)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: NCSAT vs. AT&T Lan Manager(StarGROUP 3.4)
Message-ID: <1991May31.020444.24839@netcom.COM>
Date: 31 May 91 02:04:44 GMT
References: <1991May29.220808.21386@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Netcom - Somewhere in the S.F. Bay Area
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In article <1991May29.220808.21386@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> tcheng@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Tony C. Cheng) writes:
>
>Does anyone have experiences on installing NCSA Telnet on the AT&T
>Lan Manager network?  We recently get this network software upgrade
>from the AT&T and hope it work with NCSA Telnet packet drivers, but
>AT&T cannot give us specific information on the setup; they simply
>told us NCSAT should work along on the Lan Manager.  :-<
>
>They did mention about the use of NETBIND.EXE, but none of the 
>documentation I have contains specific usage of this program.  
>
>I have complete packet driver set from Clarkson and NCSA Telnet 2.3b.  
>I will really appreciate if anyone who has experiences on setting up NCSAT 
>to work with Lan Manager drivers or vice versa can give me some help.
>
>
>Tony C. Cheng
>.............
>Educ. Tech. Services
>Indiana University..


Yes, I am working at the University of San Francisco and recently got
several Freeware packages (and a Windows3.0 shareware) that give your
users Telnet and FTP.  There are two basic approaches:

1) use the Clarkson Packet Driver without loading your LMS, and
   use a Packet-Driver-aware application (CUTCP, e.g.)

2) get the dis_pkt arrangement; this is from (I recall...) Utah
   University.  This is an alternate packet driver that understands
   the use of NDIS.  As such, you must enter some information in
   the "lanman.dos\drivers\yourdriver\protocol.ini" file.  When you
   load your NOS, the packet driver is bound (hence NETBIND) along
   with ISO (in the case of StarGROUP).  Now, any packet-driver aware
   application, like NCSA, will run.  With WinQVNET, which is a WIN3.0
   Telnet/FTP application, you will also need to put a 'shim' to mediate
   the protected mode of windows.

Off the top of my head, I cannot recall which host on the Internet I got
these packages from, but if you wish, I will post the exact hosts,
directories, and filenames you will need.

For raw performance, I prefer the CUTCP, as the windows-based version 
is a tiny bit sluggish; however, the CUTCP is really two executables
and it is awkward to kick-off a telnet session, log off, fireup an FTP
and back to telnet...with the windows version, it is a breeze.

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